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12-11-2004 23:24

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http://blitzbasic.com/Products/blitzmax.php

TNT has not has a real update in almost 2 years. Blitz smokes it in every way, and can make cross platform games. Check it out.

12-12-2004 00:43

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Doesn't it feel wrong to post that here?

12-12-2004 02:11

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I wasn't worried about TNT not - shall we say - advancing before, but now... :(

12-12-2004 04:11

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Not at all. I think it is an awesome alternative for all the registered TNT users (myself included,) who were left high and dry by the developers.

Interpret that however you want.

12-12-2004 22:06

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i agree with dan, im a little peeved at the lack of updates, and as it stands, tnt just cant keep up with blitz in terms of speed and features.

cheers
charlie

12-12-2004 23:11

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Alas, is the end my friends?

TNT is a nice product for its price but it probably lacked of customers, after all "beginner mac game devs" are a very very small target. The authors probably realized it some time ago, and decided to stop investing much time on it. After all TNT is already a very big effort, to rewrite the engine would have been a time investement that would have almost certainly NOT paid off.

Yet some great games have been written in TNT. I give my top score to Space Strike, impressive (though a bit too hard)

I guess blitz max is impressive, after all the guy that does it works on it full time (because he has a bigger target, beginner-intermediate game devs for all platforms) and might be the new killer app to finish a game fast.
Yet 25$<<80$, so TNT might still have some appeal for a while, its still quite solid. However substantial updates are excluded.

12-13-2004 02:08

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Will TNT as it stands create games that will continue to work with subsequent updates of the Mac OS? That's the only thing I'm worried about at this time.

12-13-2004 03:18

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I must admit though...BlitzMax is very very nice. It has classes and built in open gl support and oohh I'm tempted. I think I'm ready for the increased power too.

12-13-2004 04:06

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Blitz is more expensive than TNT. It also has a lot more money behind it. It has been around, in one form, or another for over 10 years.

The developer is committed to the Mac. So much that he released the Mac version months ahead of the PC release.

And, as I mentioned, it can compile on Mac, PC, and Linux.

The only thing you might miss from TNT is the map editor.

12-13-2004 18:20

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>Will TNT as it stands create games that will continue to work with subsequent updates of the Mac OS? That's the only thing I'm worried about at this time.

Thats a good question.

12-14-2004 18:59

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I already have downloaded blitzmax...
But i have doubts about the speed (=framerate), i'm afraid that
it isn't quick enough for some complex games..
Almost every demo the same thing... the framerate is going up and down..
Anybody else noticing this thing.. it's not constant, it slows down every
2 seconds (or something like that)...
Please let me know if you also have come to the same conclusion..
It has some very nice graphical abilities.. so i'm impressed, but the games will be terrible if it's not capable of getting high framerates...

JW

12-15-2004 03:28

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Blitz uses OpenGL to draw. On machines with decent video cards, it runs circles around TNT. If you have something like an original iMac or such, then, yes, TNT might be quicker.



12-15-2004 17:37

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Well, that doesn't run smooth on my computer, i have a duel G4, so that shouldn't give problems. Every demo gives me the same slowing down procedure.

JW

12-15-2004 21:57

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Interesting. What kind of dips? The developer would be keen to hear such a report.

12-17-2004 11:56

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I have not seen such behavior. Are you certain you do not have a lot of apps running in the background. In all my tests, Blitz is much faster than TNT in hardware mode...or software for that matter.

12-17-2004 16:33

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It has something to do with my two displays attached to one graphic card..
My 1900-1200 display shows the delay in blitzmax, on my other display the speed is normal.. It's a 64 Mb videocard, so that's 32 Mb per display.
That's what causes the problem.. If i use my 17 inch display then there won' tbe a problem..

JW

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